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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby Meadow » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:54 pm

Richardo, hi, in response to your quote:
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''I was very puzzled how the Mirror was pleased to pay for the hosting costs, yet let some threads go on and on, with completely pointless and repetitive discussions. Also the amount of obvious chimping on some threads, making the vast number of posts on such threads quite uninformative and unproductive. Why the chimps attacked certain threads wasn't always entirely obvious to me, but clearly some chimps were happy to have conversations with themselves under various usernames, and each other, to the point where sensible discussion was thwarted'' <<snip>>

Because when the Pro lobby (for the want of a term) could not bring the forum down with reasonable debate & discussion. They played games, the 'trolls' were in both camps arguing amongst themselves, this brought the forum down. They had no agenda to discuss the saga of the disappearance of Madeleine.

Their prime objective was to bring the whole forum in to disrepute which they successfully achieved.

Like where are they now ?
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby scylla » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:07 pm

Ricado, while I was reading your post, something occurred to me. Perhaps when the Mirror allowed the Maddy sub-forum to be created, they thought it was primarily going to be one that showed full support for the McCanns.

If that's true, imagine their chagrin once they realized it was becoming a meeting-ground for people who saw beyond the headlines and understood that not all was well in McCann-Land, and who not only didn't hesitate to voice their suspicions of the McCanns, but went so far as to do their own research -- research that in many cases put most of the McCann-reporting journalists to shame.

I think the Mirror closing Maddy's forum was the best thing to happen -- it will allow the discussions to continue here unhindered and without the threat of thread deletion if a theory may come a little too close to the truth.
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby Ricado » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:45 am

Meadow wrote:Richardo, hi, in response to your quote:
<<nip>>
''I was very puzzled how the Mirror was pleased to pay for the hosting costs, yet let some threads go on and on, with completely pointless and repetitive discussions. Also the amount of obvious chimping on some threads, making the vast number of posts on such threads quite uninformative and unproductive. Why the chimps attacked certain threads wasn't always entirely obvious to me, but clearly some chimps were happy to have conversations with themselves under various usernames, and each other, to the point where sensible discussion was thwarted'' <<snip>>

Because when the Pro lobby (for the want of a term) could not bring the forum down with reasonable debate & discussion. They played games, the 'trolls' were in both camps arguing amongst themselves, this brought the forum down. They had no agenda to discuss the saga of the disappearance of Madeleine.

Their prime objective was to bring the whole forum in to disrepute which they successfully achieved.

Like where are they now ?


Thanks for your response Meadow.

scylla wrote:Ricado, while I was reading your post, something occurred to me. Perhaps when the Mirror allowed the Maddy sub-forum to be created, they thought it was primarily going to be one that showed full support for the McCanns.

If that's true, imagine their chagrin once they realized it was becoming a meeting-ground for people who saw beyond the headlines and understood that not all was well in McCann-Land, and who not only didn't hesitate to voice their suspicions of the McCanns, but went so far as to do their own research -- research that in many cases put most of the McCann-reporting journalists to shame.

I think the Mirror closing Maddy's forum was the best thing to happen -- it will allow the discussions to continue here unhindered and without the threat of thread deletion if a theory may come a little too close to the truth.


Thanks for your response scylla.

I'm sure there were mischievous posters in both camps and some that were just mischievous. Sadly there are people that can think of nothing better to occupy themselves. About how many were actually on the payroll of some organisation or other we can only speculate. Some may have been trying to bring the forum down, and maybe in the end they did, but that rather poses the question; why did it survive so long? I lean toward the idea that when it first took off, the Mirror hoped it would generate some usable pro-McCann material, but it never did. The pros were challenged repeatedly to come up with some logical reasoning or evidence and none did; they just continued their mischief... but then some of them are just 'challenged' :lol:

I'm sure it is very good indeed that some good people have made this forum available and that everyone that wants a sensible discussion (plus the odd bit of humour) has moved here. I suspect the mods won't have many problems preventing mischief, because I still think in some way the Mirror was encouraging it, or they permitted it to carry on, knowing whom was behind it.
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby IsChildNeglectLegal » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:50 am

scylla wrote:Ricado, while I was reading your post, something occurred to me. Perhaps when the Mirror allowed the Maddy sub-forum to be created, they thought it was primarily going to be one that showed full support for the McCanns.

If that's true, imagine their chagrin once they realized it was becoming a meeting-ground for people who saw beyond the headlines and understood that not all was well in McCann-Land, and who not only didn't hesitate to voice their suspicions of the McCanns, but went so far as to do their own research -- research that in many cases put most of the McCann-reporting journalists to shame.

I think the Mirror closing Maddy's forum was the best thing to happen -- it will allow the discussions to continue here unhindered and without the threat of thread deletion if a theory may come a little too close to the truth.



You could be on to something with this...the one thing I don't miss is the usual suspects prattling on about the old Libel Chestnut... :roll:
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby Rocky » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:29 pm

I have just learnt on another thread (which is now locked for some reason) that the Mirror Forum's main administrator Leigh Norton and who is supposed to be in charge of it all posts as 'Blondie'.

If this is true, I am even more astounded than I was before with regard to how the MF is run because it was 'Blondie' that posted this thread: http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1485 asking about the weather when the MF was in the middle of being attacked with vile porn :shock: :shock:

I thought that it was bad enough that a moderator posted this thread and find it unbelievable and unacceptable that it actually came from the forum's main administrator :!: :!: :shock:

Why on earth did she not apply her powers and deal with the horid situation by deleting the threads that the porn was being displayed on?? On no! she thought it was a much better idea to ask what we though about the b****y weather!!! grrrr.

With all the different bits of information that is slowly seeping out about the MF what a complete farce that place seems to be now :evil:
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby jackieL » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:21 am

Was Maz Mod Psychokiller?
Is that the one that wouldn't let us bump the main thread and kept locking it for wandering off topic?
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby xxdelly » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:36 am

Interesting thread, good to read the history of the forum for those of us who weren't registered at the start.

I do remember the weekend in question, I think it was before I registered. Can anyone remember when it was?

I agree with you about AureliusMod being fair. I think it was just by pure fluke that I picked her to pm, and she was very professional and polite. I never messaged any of the other ones after that.
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby Rocky » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:00 am

xxdelly wrote:Interesting thread, good to read the history of the forum for those of us who weren't registered at the start.

I do remember the weekend in question, I think it was before I registered. Can anyone remember when it was?

I agree with you about AureliusMod being fair. I think it was just by pure fluke that I picked her to pm, and she was very professional and polite. I never messaged any of the other ones after that.


Hi xxdelly,

I am sorry I can not remember the exact date but the date of the aforementioned weather thread is dated 26th June and it was posted at the height of the porn fiasco. So it was around the last week of June when it all started.
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby FlyingFig » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:12 am

The porn invasion was towards the end of July and the Mod who was posting about the weather was posting one night and it wasn't Blondie, can't remember who offhand, possibly Tarzan.
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby IsChildNeglectLegal » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:20 am

FlyingFig wrote:The porn invasion was towards the end of July and the Mod who was posting about the weather was posting one night and it wasn't Blondie, can't remember who offhand, possibly Tarzan.



So the latest BS Statement about a "Family friendly site" would appear to be a 180?
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby Rocky » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:21 am

FlyingFig wrote:The porn invasion was towards the end of July and the Mod who was posting about the weather was posting one night and it wasn't Blondie, can't remember who offhand, possibly Tarzan.


You are absolutely right :oops: I have just checked and the thread was indeed started by Tarzan and the thread is still there with everyone's comments: http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=111027 and it is dated 22nd July.
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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby Brad1963 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:43 am

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Leigh Norton's selection process was met with widespread optimism by the remaining Moderators.

Oh sorry I though the OP was a question.

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Re: How the Mirror forum mods were selected

Postby Dizzy » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:58 pm

Could It Just Be One Of Dizzy's Real Scenarios

Here is the story

At our Business once a year get together type meetings one of my colleauges suggested we should have a message board after a lot of urming and arghing it was decided it was a good idea.

There was a lot of debate about how the Business should go about this, there were a couple of us that knew exactly what to do how and where to go.

We went away and created two different Forums .

Mine was chosen by the person with the origional Idea.

The point I am trying to make is a member of staff had an idea but did not know how to execute it, another member of staff knew how to execute it and made it happen.

Only now am I saying you need someone to administer this, you need a moderator, have you actually thought about what you want to see on your Forum, do you want the General Public to see it and participate or do you want it to be a staff forum only.

Is it just possible like my scenario someone on the DM Maybe a member of Staff or even a reader came up with the great idea of a forum. They were quite simply told yep great idea get on with it make it happen. Let us know how it goes. It just coincided with Missing Madeleine and all of us trying to find somewhere to chat, because it wasnt moderated we started asking questions putting points of views forward that no other forum would let us do, remember those days where we couldnt quite believe and started asking questions and allowed to get on with it.

I know what I am trying to say Madeleine took the slowly growing Mirror Forum by surprise we were allowed to continue, after all we were good sources of information, we did stacks of research .

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