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if it was an assassination

Postby emma2 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:39 pm

it had to be a French operation. It was carried out on french soil. They were in control of the evidence and the investigation.

What does that tell us? POssibly that it was a French operation (with British agreement) against the Al Fayeds where Diana was collateral damage? or Diana dead was the ultimate revenge on Mohammed Al Fayed?

Why would the French want revenge on Al Fayed?
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby Molly2 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:46 pm

emma2 wrote:it had to be a French operation. It was carried out on french soil. They were in control of the evidence and the investigation.

What does that tell us? POssibly that it was a French operation (with British agreement) against the Al Fayeds where Diana was collateral damage? or Diana dead was the ultimate revenge on Mohammed Al Fayed?

Why would the French want revenge on Al Fayed?


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Therein lies the crux of why I do not believe in any kind of conspiracy theory .... The French are not exactly the greatest fans of the British, and even less so of Royalty :wink:

So, in order to believe that this was an assasination it is necessary to believe that MI6 and the British Establishment planned and executed a plot that involved the full collusion of the French Secret Services, French Police, French Emergency Services (ambulance), French medical doctors and nursing staff, French scientists, pathologists, coroners and peripheral staff PLUS a host of 'extras' .... including a large number of ex Fayed staff who have testified in ways which do not support Mr Al Fayeds claims, Diana's friends, family and staff... the list of people who would have to have been involved just goes on and on, with no valid reason for the vast majority of them to collude.
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby frencheuropean » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:43 pm

emma2 wrote:it had to be a French operation. It was carried out on french soil. They were in control of the evidence and the investigation.

What does that tell us? POssibly that it was a French operation (with British agreement) against the Al Fayeds where Diana was collateral damage? or Diana dead was the ultimate revenge on Mohammed Al Fayed?

Why would the French want revenge on Al Fayed?



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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby emma2 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:00 pm

Molly2 wrote:
emma2 wrote:it had to be a French operation. It was carried out on french soil. They were in control of the evidence and the investigation.

What does that tell us? POssibly that it was a French operation (with British agreement) against the Al Fayeds where Diana was collateral damage? or Diana dead was the ultimate revenge on Mohammed Al Fayed?

Why would the French want revenge on Al Fayed?


************

Therein lies the crux of why I do not believe in any kind of conspiracy theory .... The French are not exactly the greatest fans of the British, and even less so of Royalty :wink:

So, in order to believe that this was an assasination it is necessary to believe that MI6 and the British Establishment planned and executed a plot that involved the full collusion of the French Secret Services, French Police, French Emergency Services (ambulance), French medical doctors and nursing staff, French scientists, pathologists, coroners and peripheral staff PLUS a host of 'extras' .... including a large number of ex Fayed staff who have testified in ways which do not support Mr Al Fayeds claims, Diana's friends, family and staff... the list of people who would have to have been involved just goes on and on, with no valid reason for the vast majority of them to collude.




Realpolitik. It's not personal. It's not emotional. It's practical.

The French may have been stopping something - perhaps Dodi was on his way to a meeting that night and was using Diana as cover. Were the Fayeds involved in arms trafficking? middlemen for arms traffickers?

The English establishment/government would have been happy with the outcome. Fayed would have been taping Diana and would have been taking notes of material he could use to blackmail the English establishment for decades to come.
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby emma2 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:02 pm

frencheuropean wrote:
emma2 wrote:it had to be a French operation. It was carried out on french soil. They were in control of the evidence and the investigation.

What does that tell us? POssibly that it was a French operation (with British agreement) against the Al Fayeds where Diana was collateral damage? or Diana dead was the ultimate revenge on Mohammed Al Fayed?

Why would the French want revenge on Al Fayed?



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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby Molly2 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:37 am

emma2 wrote:
Molly2 wrote:
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Realpolitik. It's not personal. It's not emotional. It's practical.

The French may have been stopping something - perhaps Dodi was on his way to a meeting that night and was using Diana as cover. Were the Fayeds involved in arms trafficking? middlemen for arms traffickers?

The English establishment/government would have been happy with the outcome. Fayed would have been taping Diana and would have been taking notes of material he could use to blackmail the English establishment for decades to come.



I wouldn't put anything past the Al Fayeds, but I would have thought that if the French were trying to get rid of them they would have found a more low profile way to do so than involving Diana, given the amount of paparrazzi and media interest she engendered.... if she hadn't been involved then any accident involving an Al Fayed's death would have been of little interest to the media or the public.

Also, if Mohammed Al Fayed had been taping Diana then I cannot imagine why he has not produced said tapes already, especially given his circular and often illogical rantings in court. The man is (in my humble and personal opinion of course) as mad as a bag of cats :lol:
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby Groom1 » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:53 pm

emma2 wrote:it had to be a French operation. It was carried out on french soil. They were in control of the evidence and the investigation.

What does that tell us? POssibly that it was a French operation (with British agreement) against the Al Fayeds where Diana was collateral damage? or Diana dead was the ultimate revenge on Mohammed Al Fayed?

Why would the French want revenge on Al Fayed?


The Tory party had issues with Mohammed al Fayed. He was part of the reason they were thrown out of office. Di had also recently aligned herself with the new Labour government. Also, the intelligence services alliegence is with the right wing, whether in power or not.

The other organisations that might have issues with Di were:

The Israeli intelligence services - she was having sex with the son of a prominent Muslim person. Her previous lover was also a Muslim - the Pakistani doctor, Khan. There could have been fears of her worldwide fame bringing good, useful publicity to the Arab world.

Arms manufacturers (US and the Israelis).

To be perfectly honest, the probable reason for the crash was that it was an accident: the occupants of the car were stupid enough not to be wearing their seat belts.
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby bohhee » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:59 pm

IMO it was just an accident - too many authorities involved to buy silence of conspiracy.

P. Diana was fated to die in an accident and I suspect she knew it. She didnt imagine activities she engaged in would lead to it. She used clairvoyant all the time. Clairvoyant must have told her it was in her cards she will never be queen and there's an accident of some kind. Clairvoyant may have known accident involved her but didnt or couldnt tell her. Diana instead concluded that P. Charles is going to be involved in an accident hence she won't be Queen - this was reported several times in books written about her. She herself said in one of these books that she thinks P. Charles will be involved in a ski accident and Prince Andrew will be regent until her children are of age.

I think accident was destined -- simply put her number was called up. From clairvoyant's prediction she must have some inkling and intuition of impending doom. That led to her belief and fear that people are going to stage an accident for her. It's probably furthest from the truth. Her time was up - pure and simple - nothing sinister in it.

Her decisions to go it alone without guard protection support from the establishment is a downfall of her own doing. Had she been more trustful of the Royal she would still be alived. Some of her actions caused bad publicity for the Royal but I dont thinkt he Royal would want her dead.
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby emma2 » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:49 pm

'In April 2002, the prestigious French newspaper Le Journal du
"Dimanche reported this week that Fayed was under
investigation by Intelligence bureaus in France and
Portugal for his role in the illegal procurement of
Uranium-235, sold to Iran in August 2001"......

....."Fayed had long been kept under scrutiny by British intelligence services.
Acting on Information from MI-6 (British CIA) the French DST (Intelligence Service) discovered quantities of uranium in the possession of one Serge Salfati. Salfati and other members of the Al-Fayed smuggling ring, Yves Ekwalla and Raymond Lobe, have been detained in France and may be charged. According to the examining magistrate, Al-Fayed may also be charged. Intelligence sources in France and Israel have revealed that evidence in their possession places Al-Fayed as a member of a group of wealthy Arabs living in the United Kingdom who have been engaged in the clandestine funding of Hamas, Al Qaeda, and more
recently, the Al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade."


http://911review.org/Alex/Diana_Fayed_Adnan-K_CIA.html
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby jata » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:17 pm

What a bunch of drivel.

If Al Fayed says she was pregnant and this is why the killed her, how can he also claim he was the only one who knew about the pregnancy? Do people not see the blatant stupidity of this man's claims?

It was an accident. People too stupid to wear seatbelts. Driver driving too fast (drunk or otherwise, who cares) and unable to control the car.

Anyone who thinks this is some kind of conspiracy has got to be slightly insane.

I have never seen a more ridiculous waste of money.

Imagine, people talking about this nonsence 10 years (yes, 10 years) later.
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Re: if it was an assassination

Postby emma2 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:04 pm

Groom1 wrote:
emma2 wrote:it had to be a French operation. It was carried out on french soil. They were in control of the evidence and the investigation.

What does that tell us? POssibly that it was a French operation (with British agreement) against the Al Fayeds where Diana was collateral damage? or Diana dead was the ultimate revenge on Mohammed Al Fayed?

Why would the French want revenge on Al Fayed?


The Tory party had issues with Mohammed al Fayed. He was part of the reason they were thrown out of office. Di had also recently aligned herself with the new Labour government. Also, the intelligence services alliegence is with the right wing, whether in power or not.

The other organisations that might have issues with Di were:

The Israeli intelligence services - she was having sex with the son of a prominent Muslim person. Her previous lover was also a Muslim - the Pakistani doctor, Khan. There could have been fears of her worldwide fame bringing good, useful publicity to the Arab world.

Arms manufacturers (US and the Israelis).

To be perfectly honest, the probable reason for the crash was that it was an accident: the occupants of the car were stupid enough not to be wearing their seat belts.





Yes, there has been rumours of the Israeli intelligence service following her whilst she was in Paris....talk of an Israeli agent called Maurice with a dog and agents at the tunnel.

It seemed rather disingenuous of the SIS to give evidence to the inquest that they had no interest in her.....no interest in someone campaigning against landmines! no interest in someone hanging out Khashoggi the arms dealer's nephew! no interest in a Royal hanging out with the Al Fayeds! It could have been an accident, but I don't believe that various intel services weren't keeping an eye on her.
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