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Shannon Matthews went missing on her way home from school on the 19th February 2008, Shannon lived in Dewsbury with her Mother and Step Father. Please discuss

UPDATE Shannon Matthews Found Alive 14th March 2008

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Postby Laffin Assasin » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:05 am

BBC just reported, Karen Matthews and Donavan to go on trial in November in relation to the Kiddnap of Shannon.
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Re: Shannon Breaking news on BBC

Postby kezwalk » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:08 am

Laffin Assasin wrote:BBC just reported, Karen Matthews and Donavan to go on trial in November in relation to the Kiddnap of Shannon.


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Re: Shannon Breaking news on BBC

Postby bonnybraes1 » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:09 am

Remanded in custody till then according to Sky, Laffin, so she must be deep in the sticky brown stuff.
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Re: Breaking news

Postby halfamo » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:51 am

What a truly selfish woman Karen Matthews is turning out to be.Did'nt she stop and think what would happen to her children if this came to light.Lets hope wherever these kiddies from this family are they are getting lots of tlc.
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Re: Breaking news

Postby shoperoo » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:03 am

Looks as though she was equally responsible for this hoax, scam whatever the hell it turns out to be. Im inclined now to beleive that she was having if off with Donovan and that she may well be more culpable than her co-accused . He smacks of of someone with deep phsycological problems.

Well she certainly took me in. I'm gobsmacked. Her acting ability was Oscar worthy.

So the British taxpayer will be paying for Karen for the rest of her days. She'll do a stretch in prison and then have a Maxine Carr style protection deal on her release. Hope she doesnt emulate Carr by having any more kids, though think she may well.
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Re: Breaking news

Postby tequilasunset » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:26 am

Remanded in custody until NOVEMBER 11TH!

That 's a d amn long time in a place where 99% of the inmates are out to get you.

She'll have ample chance to reflect on how stupid she has been.

What a waste of money this whole thing has been. I read this morning the cost of everyting involved here is in the region of £1million, not including police pay for officers who would have been working anyway.
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Re: Shannon Breaking news on BBC

Postby coral » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:06 pm

bonnybraes1 wrote:Remanded in custody till then according to Sky, Laffin, so she must be deep in the sticky brown stuff.


I agree, there must have been a good reason for refusing her bail, unless she didnt want it in the first place!

But those poor kids, what now? Hopefully a loving secure foster home.
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Re: Breaking news

Postby PantsOfGanga » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:47 am

I've been haunted by a photo of the poor dig tied up in the garden of the boarded up house. Poor thing - hope it's being cared for by the RSPCA or someone and not just turned loose.
Thought for the day: Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
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Re: Breaking news

Postby tonto » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:00 am

I've never been fooled by her. Knew she was a low life skank from the get go. Now they're admitting she has never worked a single day in her life and get 400 pounds ($800) a week in benefit money for popping out kids. One kid she gave up to it's dad because he wouldn't buy her a packet of cigarettes. This really is like that Shameless TV show I guess :lol:
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Re: Breaking news

Postby pakeha2007 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:07 am

Good morning, all.
A sad and twisted example of just how real life can get.
Hadn't the McCanns expressed a wish of wanting to donate monies from the Fund for a poster campaign to help find Shannon?
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Re: Breaking news

Postby mannie » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:21 am

She fooled me.It's sad for the kids but hopefully they will be given good care in the future, and better if it was out of the area altogether.
They may then have the chance of a decent future.
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Re: Breaking news

Postby helena » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:26 am

Yes she has been foolish,but the media are moroons.
They find it totally ok to dig in their past and come up with dirt,yet the mcscams are protected left right and centre
It makes me sick and I am in no way condoning what karen did,It's disgraceful,but to make her look like a hardend criminal is not going to help.
It's just so totally unfair she gets done for child neglect(and rightly so)but the horrible two can leave their kids ALONE and we're told in the media and from that philips woman"that's totally acceptable and we ALL do that"
It just beggars believe,the double standards this society has adopted.If you'r middle class and on top of that a doctor or even two,well than it's perfectly ok to neglect your children.
I'm probably going to be shot down in flames,but I believe to dump your children in a creche at any given moment(no I don't mean when you work,I worked all my life while my kids were young)is neglect.
This is going to be a mammouth post,sorry,but I found a great article in the independent and am to dippy to work out how to post a link so i copied and pasted it,sorry:

Janet Street-Porter: So what chance did Karen ever have?


Thursday, 17 April 2008


The trial by media of Karen Matthews, mother of Shannon, the little girl who was missing for 24 days, continues. Yesterday it was announced that the date for her trial on charges of child neglect and perverting the course of justice has been set for November. Some sections of the press seem intent on trashing the clearly inadequate Ms Matthews just as they did Fiona MacKeown, mother of murdered teenager Scarlett Keeling – unearthing endless examples of her "unsuitability" as a mother.

Last Sunday the News of the World carried lurid, unsubstantiated allegations from the father of one of Karen's children under the banner, "She's a violent, foul-mouthed, chain-smoking, boozy slob". What chance does this woman stand of having a fair trial?

Yesterday another newspaper published a "family tree" of Karen and her partner Craig (charged with possessing child pornography) headlined, "Downfall of a decent family". Karen seems to symbolise – for some social commentators – the moral disintegration of white working-class Britain.

Hang on a minute. On closer inspection Karen's background is very similar to that of many people I know, myself included. My father, like Karen's, served in the Royal Engineers. Unlike Karen's parents, mine didn't marry until my sister and I were well out of nappies. In fact my mother had previously married when she was very young, and then dumped her husband when she met my dad. My father, too, had already been married, and both of these first marriages were kept a family secret until I was well into my forties. Dad's branch of my family is still a complete mystery to me. Once, a woman came up to me in the street and announced she was an illegitimate child by one of my close family, and how on earth would I know the truth?

The point is that with a bit of ferreting almost every family in the land could unearth broken marriages, children born out of wedlock, babies given up for adoption and a handful of relatives with criminal records. Show me a family tree that would pass detailed inspection by the Daily Mail and I'll try to find an MP that's never fiddled their expenses.

Then there's the charge that Karen and her relatives face of being lazy slobs. You can't blame poorly educated, working-class men and women for not taking up craft skills when apprenticeship schemes were axed (particularly in the North), pits and factories closed and heavy industry decamped overseas. Where were they supposed to learn the social skills to be at the forefront of new leisure-orientated Britain plc? And you can't demonise Karen for claiming large amounts of benefit when the system (as operated by successive Labour governments) is so open to abuse.

What kind of role models do politicians offer to people like Karen? The Prime Minister talks of understanding the problems of the poor, getting people back to work and off the dole. But the man who promised the end of spin spends as much as his predecessor on special advisers to groom his public persona – the kind of experts that Karen Matthews could clearly benefit from.

Jennifer Moses, formerly of Goldman Sachs, advises the Prime Minister on poverty but is one of those non-domiciled people who pay a relatively small amount of tax compared to their vast wealth. The Government should make it compulsory for all its team to pay all their tax in the UK, to set a decent example to the rest of us. But it doesn't. Benefit cheating? Is it any worse than cleverly exploiting loopholes to pay the minimum amount of tax you can get away with?
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Re: Breaking news

Postby onthefence » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:48 pm

shoperoo wrote:Looks as though she was equally responsible for this hoax, scam whatever the hell it turns out to be. Im inclined now to beleive that she was having if off with Donovan and that she may well be more culpable than her co-accused . He smacks of of someone with deep phsycological problems.

Well she certainly took me in. I'm gobsmacked. Her acting ability was Oscar worthy.

So the British taxpayer will be paying for Karen for the rest of her days. She'll do a stretch in prison and then have a Maxine Carr style protection deal on her release. Hope she doesnt emulate Carr by having any more kids, though think she may well.



Im hoping by the time she gets out her child bearing days are well over.
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Re: Breaking news

Postby peacelover » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:39 pm

Janet Street Porter
you can't demonise Karen for claiming large amounts of benefit when the system (as operated by successive Labour governments) is so open to abuse.


Isn't this exactly the reason why the UK is disintegrating?

So we can't be annoyed and infuriated at someone breaking the law - because it was so easy to do?
Its easy to kill a child - so should that be made something you can't blame someone for as well?

Yes the Matthews family IS an example of what is happening to the UK society. Apparantly Janet Street Porter's is as well. That is the whole point - it is happening to most families and the UK is on self destruct mode.

Compare this sort of situation with the families in other European countries and you find the family is intact and these criminal and anti social behaviours are not happening.

Excusing it away with 'we all do it' is just sad and lazy and calculated to enable the situation to deteriorate.

Ms Street Porter has a very low opinion of people if she thinks that because there aren't apprenticeships then it is a good reason for wholesale drug addiction child neglect and criminality.

There aren't widespread government sponsored apprenticeships in the country I live in today - but the population is on the whole law abiding and community minded.

What fools they are, according to Ms Street Porter they should be swilling back the booze, high on drugs and committing every easily achievable crime they can think of - and they wouldn't be at all to blame for it.

She really is a spoiled out of touch twit these days!!! :twisted:
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Re: Breaking news

Postby Meadow » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:53 pm

Its a very strange balance of life styles, you have two doctors, good income, three children. Spend most of their holiday in the kids club and home alone in the evening and one goes missing. Welcomed home with the flags flying.

Then you have the mother of 7 by 5 fathers, living on state benefits. The children split up between the various fathers. Shannon goes missing and is found in hiding with a family member, then a round up on the whole clan for their involvement. House boarded up incase the neighbour riot.

Shannon alive & has been found. But her mother is charged with child neglect. (amongst no doubt other things)

Very interesting.
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