Mariluz suspect confesses

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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby Topcat » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:19 pm

frencheuropean wrote:According to the new article in "enfants kidnapp├®s", Mari Luz "could have died by accident, trying to fly this man. His family's members knew the truth but said nothing"

http://www.kidnapping.be/mariluz_arrestat/index.html

Merci for a translation.

What does that mean?
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby shesaidwhat » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:29 pm

Topcat wrote:
frencheuropean wrote:According to the new article in "enfants kidnapp├®s", Mari Luz "could have died by accident, trying to fly this man. His family's members knew the truth but said nothing"

http://www.kidnapping.be/mariluz_arrestat/index.html

Merci for a translation.

What does that mean?



At a guess it means she died as a result of an accident that happened whilst she was trying to 'flee' from this man? Maybe?
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby fedrules » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:46 pm

In Spanish newspaper 'El Mundo' it says the suspect is claiming that Marie died after a falling on the stairs and hitting her head.He claims she went to his flat voluntarily,although it's very easy to abuse the trust of a small child.He is a known paedophile so I doubt much credence will be given to his version of events..
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby JennyBabe » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:58 pm

tiffany wrote:
JennyBabe wrote:both this and the case of Shannon again emphasise how likely it is that someone the child knows is likely to be involved... and again makes me wonder why the McCanns are so confident in each other and all of their friends, particularly Oldfield and O'Brien who both had opportunity in the time frame that Madeleine went missing....


Yup... makes me wonder how confident they really are....


they're *too* confident, which is one of the main things that makes me think there is a lot more to the Madeleine case than meets the eye. nobody would be that confident, especially given O'Brien's long absence from the group and Oldfield's solo check on the children...
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby Elemental » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:03 pm

At least her family will get some kind of Justice :cry:

I remember they searched the car of a neighbour, was it him I wonder? How did he manage to hide her with all the police activity around? Scumbag!
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby fedrules » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:15 pm

Another thing I find incredible is how a wife continues to live with a paedophile who has abused their own child?
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby poppy » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:48 pm

tiffany wrote:
poppy wrote:I try not to be critical of the police force of any country, but, as in the case of Shannon Matthews whose abtuctor was a family member and not questioned, why did the Spanish police not have any clue that a next door neighbour with sexual convictions just MIGHT be a prime suspect????


poppy, they did. This guy was brought in for questioning but they couldn't bring anything on him right there and then. He has been a suspect ever since and the autopsy dna findings have finally nailed him into confession.


Thanks for putting me straight on that Tiffany. Interesting that they needed to have the body before there was final proof. If only Madeleine's remains could be found, as I still don't think there will be a conviction without them.
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby Primavera » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:00 pm

Enfants Kidnapp├®s:

http://www.kidnapping.be/mariluzcortes/index.html

3 suspects arr├¬t├®s !!!26 mars 2008

Un couple de suspects arr├¬t├®s.

Un couple de voisin de la famille de la petite Mari Luz Cort├¿s a ├®t├® arr├¬t├®, hier. Une troisi├¿me arrestation a eu lieu un peu plus tard, celle de la soeur du principal suspect. Le principal suspect, Santiago G., a admis que Mari Luz est morte alors qu'il "l'accompagnait de sa propre volont├®". Selon son audition, la fillette ├®tait en sa compagnie quand "elle est accidentellement tomb├®e" et est d├®c├®d├®e. Les autorit├®s sont absolument s├╗res d'avoir arr├¬t├® l'auteur de l'enl├¿vement de Mari Luz dont les raisons seraient, selon toutes vraisemblances, ├á caract├¿re sexuelles. Ces soup├ºons sont confirm├®s par le pass├® du suspect. Il est d├®j├á connu de la justice pour des faits de moeurs sur mineurs et il tombe sous le coup d'une injonction judiciaire lui interdisant de s'approcher de ses propres filles. Toutefois, les analyses scientifiques d├®montrent que l'homme n'a pas eu le temps de mettre ses projets ├á ex├®cution, les analyses n'ayant r├®v├®l├® aucune trace d'abus sexuel. Il est ├á supposer que l'enfant se sera d├®battue afin de se d├®gager de son ou ses ravisseurs, ne suivant pas ces derniers volontairement comme le d├®clare le suspect."



3 suspects arrested!!! 26th March 2008

A couple of suspects arrested.

A couple, neighbours of the family of Mari Luz Cortès, were arrested yesterday. A third arrest took place a little while later, that of the sister of the prime suspect. The prime suspect, Santiago G. admitted that Mari Luz died while, "going with him of her own free will." According to his interview, the little girl was with him, "she accidentally fell," and died. The authorities are absolutely sure that they have arrested Mari Luz's abductor, whose motives would have been, by all appearances, of a sexual nature. Their suspicions were confirmed by the suspect's history. He is already known to the police for acts of indecency with children and he is the subject of a court order, forbidding him from approaching his own daughters. However, scientific analysis shows that the man did not have time to put his plans into action, the analyses have revealed no evidence of sexual abuse. It is assumed that the child would have struggled to free herself from her captors, not going along voluntarily as the suspect has claimed.

"Dans sa tentative de fuite et dans l'affolement, bien compr├®hensible, la petite sera tomb├®e dans un r├®cup├®rateur d'eau proche. C'est du moins la th├¿se la plus logique et celle soutenue pour le moment. Elle est d'autant retenue que le suspect n'a pas port├® assistance ├á la fillette. Il n'a pas, non plus, signal├® aux autorit├®s l'endroit o├╣ la fillette est tomb├®e. Si c'est intentions n'├®taient pas mauvaises, il aurait imm├®diatement ├®t├® chercher les secours et la petite aurait, peut-├¬tre pu ├¬tre sauv├®e. M├¬me si elle est tomb├®e par accident (un peu forc├® quand m├¬me), le suspect est coupable de non assistance ├á personne en danger au minimum... Mais nous laissons le soin ├á la justice espagnole de former elle m├¬me ses propres chefs d'accusation."

In her attempt to escape and in her panic, understandably, the little girl may have fallen into a nearby water channel. That at least is the most logical theory and the one which is held at the moment. Needless to say, the suspect did not offer assistance to the little girl. He did not even let the authorities know where the little girl had fallen. If his intentions were not bad, he would immediately have sought help and the little girl could, perhaps, have been saved. Even if she fell accidentally (rather involuntary all the same) the suspect is at least guilty of non-assistance to a person in danger....But we shall leave to the Spanish police the problem of coming to their own conclusions.

"L'homme avait ├®t├® interrog├® d├¿s le d├®but des recherches le 13 janvier. Depuis le d├®but il est le suspect principal dans l'enqu├¬te et les autorit├®s ont confirm├® qu'il s'agissait l├á d'une hypoth├¿se solide. La femme du suspect est consid├®r├®e comme complice pour avoir gard├® le silence. Se serait, selon la presse espagnole, suite ├á des cheveux trouv├®s lors de la deuxi├¿me autopsie, effectu├®e ├á la demande de la famille, que le couple fut confondu. Le suspect, qui avait ├®t├® arr├¬t├® quelques jours apr├¿s la disparition de la petite, avait fourni un alibi lors de son premier interrogatoire au moment de sa premi├¿re garde ├á vue. Cet alibi s'est, entre temps, effondr├®. Son alibi se basait sur le t├®moignage de sa compagne. Apr├¿s sa premi├¿re garde ├á vue, le suspect avait demand├® ├á la police l'autorisation de quitter Huelva afin d'├®viter toutes repr├®sailles. Les parents et les voisins ont toujours signal├®s cet homme comme suspect. Aujourd'hui, Juan Jos├® Cort├¿s, le papa de Mari Luz a affirm├®, avant toute confirmation officielle, que "nous savions qui ├®tait cet individu, ce n'est pas une surprise pour moi"

The man had been questioned when the searches began, on January 13th. Since the beginning he has been prime suspect in the enquiry and the authorities have confirmed that they have a solid case. The wife of the suspect is considered to be an accomplice. for keeping quiet. It would be, acording to the Spanish press, a result of hair found in the course of the second autopsy, carried out at the request of the family, that the couple were found out. The suspect, who had been arrested a few days after the disappearance of the little girl, had provided an alibi during his first interrogation at the time of his first arrest. This alibi, has in the meatime, collapsed. His alibi was based on the witness statement of his partner. After his first arrest, the suspect requested police authorisation to leave Huelva in order to avoid all reprisals. The parnets and the neighbours have always indicated this person has a suspect. Today, Juan Jos├® Cort├¿s, Mari Luz's father claimed, before any official confirmation, that, "we know who this individual is, it is not a surprise to me."
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby CaptnMorgan » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:03 pm

tiffany wrote:Why has this tread been moved??? Mods┬┐???????


It's been moved because it's about Mari Luz. I know the McC's were mentioned in it a little, but it's about her not Madeleine.

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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby bomaris » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:24 pm

We can't rule him out at this stage but he does seem an unlikely candidate for an abductor, given this was very much a localised crime.

PDL does appear to be the nearest seaside holiday resort to Huelva, so one can't dismiss the possibility he would go searching for a victim there. But I am sure both the PJ and Spanish police (and the UK Police for that matter) will want this to be focussed on in due course.
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby bomaris » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:24 pm

Sorry - meant to add: does anyone have a physical description of the man?
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby bootie2 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:09 am

yes, there's even a video of him

http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/pu ... 5767.shtml


To find video of the suspect speaking to the press, scroll down to subtitle:
"Three relatives accused of covering up for main ." (Mar. 26)
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby bomaris » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:40 am

Thanks for that.

I don't think we can "eliminate him from our enquiries" as some seem to wish to do. He has brownish hair, so does to some extent fit "the" (at last one JT) description and does seem to have his hair not shaven at the back.

I still think it's very unlikely but I'd like to hear it from the PJ and Spanish Police that he has been eliminated.

Although the murder was localised, it does sound opportunistic and it has always been my feeling that only an opportunistic abduction would make sense. It sounds like he does have a car and so could mobile. The nearest seaside resort is likely to be attractive to him.

It definitely needs checking outl
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby pakeha2007 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:30 am

fedrules wrote:Another thing I find incredible is how a wife continues to live with a paedophile who has abused their own child?
Good morning, all.
That would be many people's gut reaction, I should imagine.
Yet.
It happens again and again.
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Re: Mariluz suspect confesses

Postby pakeha2007 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:41 am

tiffany wrote:A 51-year old man was arrested yesterday for the murder of Spanish Mariluz Cort├®s. Arrested alongside with his wife, who is believed to have assisted him, he has confessed to Marliluz dying in his presence. The man lived next door to Mariluz's parents and has a record for sexual harrassement of young children, including the couple's own daughter.

The man said he hid the body and then disposed of it. As we all know, the body was found floating in the nearby river almost 2 months after.

Ridiculously, the daily mail publishes an article in which they say Kate and Gerry McCann "demand" this man be questioned about Madeleine's disappearance, too. Not a word has been said about this in Spain. Not everything is about the McCanns, but in the UK it might well seem that way. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1811

Anyway, the point I want to make is that again we are facing a case where the little girl was snatched by a neighbout - over 90% of children's abductions are carried out by people close to them. This guy is a confessed paedophile, quite right. But like paedophiles usually are, he is an opportunist - Mariluz walked right past his door! Claiming that this guy would have driven all the way from Huelva to snatch Madeleine is pretty ridiculous, these people just don't go through that kind of trouble. So we are back to the basics - according to the statistics, whatever happened to Madeleine, someone close to the family knows.

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Actually, tiffany, the McCanns were mentioned in one news report. At the very end of the account of the arrival of the accused and his sister in Huelva and the ensuing riot.
Immediately after these harrowing views of frustrated and enraged family members about to "get" the accused, weeping grandmothers cradling the wounded, etc., there came a shot of the Ms tranquilly strolling on the beach and a voiceover saying the Ms wanted to investigate the accused's whereabouts on the 3rd of May. Then there came a shot of the newsreaders face, for which the poor man was not entirely prepared.
It was the only bright spot in an incredibly sordid story.
That, and the dignity of Mari luz' father.
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