Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Madeleine Beth McCann went missing from PDL in Portugal on the 3rd May 2007, there are so many unanswered questions, please discuss

Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby Djorn » Thu May 29, 2008 8:08 am

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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby clear » Thu May 29, 2008 8:13 am

Translation anyone? Thanks :bounce:
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby bjr » Thu May 29, 2008 8:14 am

29.05.2008
Enqu├¬teurs voulaient confondre le 10├®me "Tapas"

"Le refus d'acc├¿s au contenu des messages ├®crits re├ºus par Gerry McCann avant et apr├¿s la disparition de sa fille Madeleine, ou le refus des Tapas neuf de revenir au Portugal, ne vont pas emp├¬cher les inspecteurs de progresser dans leur enqu├¬te," affirme un responsable de la Police Judiciaire apr├¿s la divulgation hier de la d├®cision du Tribunal de la Relation d'├ëvora.

Selon la m├¬me source, avec leur acc├¿s au contenu des messages ├®crits re├ºus par Gerry McCann, "les enqu├¬teurs voulaient confondre un personnage encore dans l'ombre mais que la police sait ├¬tre li├®e ├á l'affaire".

Certains inspecteurs parlent m├¬me du 10 ├®me Tapas.

L'existence d'un dixi├¿me personnage, connu de Gerry et Kate McCann, est un fait ├®galement soutenu au Royaume-Uni o├╣ un membre de l'Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) ├á confirm├® que "les officiers envoy├®s au Portugal avaient m├¬me sugg├®r├® quelques possibilit├®s parmi les britanniques qui habitent en permanence la r├®gion d'Algarve".

Hier, un arr├¬t du Tribunal de la Relation d'├ëvora est venu soutenir la d├®cision du juge d'instruction criminelle de Portim├úo, Pedro Frias, qu'avait interdit l'acc├¿s des enqu├¬teurs de la Police Judiciaire au contenu des messages ├®crits (SMS) re├ºus par Gerry McCann.

Selon le document, le papa de Madeleine McCann a re├ºu 14 messages ├®crits le 2 mai, la veille de la disparition de sa fille, au d├®part d'un num├®ro de t├®l├®phone officiellement non identifi├®. Le m├¬me portable est ├á l'origine de 4 autres messages que Gerry McCann ├á re├ºu apr├¿s la disparition.

Gerry et Kate McCann ont toujours refus├® de divulguer aux enqu├¬teurs le contenu des messages, ce que n'a pas emp├¬ch├® la police d'obtenir ces renseignements.

C'est l'utilisation du contenu de ces informations, notamment dans un proc├¿s, qui est mise en cause par la d├®cision du juge d'instruction criminelle.

Selon le m├¬me document, le premier arr├¬t de justice divulgu├® jusqu'├á pr├®sent publiquement, les investigations de la Police Judiciaire, suite ├á la disparition de Madeleine, portent bien sur l'├®ventualit├® des crimes d'abandon, mise en danger, homicide et dissimulation de cadavre.

Pour rappel, l'Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) et la police du Leicestershire, ont collabor├® dans l'enqu├¬te des autorit├®s portugaises, comme l'a confirm├®e Patricia Scotland, Ministre d'Etat et Attorney General pour l'Angleterre et le Pays de Galles.

Si la d├®cision du juge emp├¬che l'utilisation des donn├®s ant├®rieurs ├á la disparition de Madeleine, elle n'a pas emp├¬ch├® les enqu├¬teurs d'en prendre connaissance des appels et les inspecteurs savent qui ├á parl├® avec qui.

Les hommes de Gon├ºalo Amaral, aujourd'hui remplac├® par l'inspecteur Paulo Rebelo, ont eu ├®galement l'occasion de proc├®der ├á des ├®coutes t├®l├®phoniques apr├¿s la disparition de Madeleine et pendant que le couple et ses amis se trouvaient au Portugal. Une fois le couple et ses amis de retour au Royaume-Uni, la PJ attendait des autorit├®s britanniques la continuation du travail mais il est encore incertain si toutes les informations ont pu leur ├¬tre communiqu├®es.

Selon l'interpr├®tation donn├®e par le juge d'instruction criminelle du Tribunal de 1┬¬ instance de Portim├úo, Pedro Frias, ├á la l├®gislation portugaise, confirm├®e par le Tribunal de la Relation, les enqu├¬teurs peuvent uniquement utiliser les donn├®es obtenus en temps r├®el. Dans la pratique, il aurait fallu aux enqu├¬teurs avoir obtenu une autorisation avant la disparition de Madeleine.

Pedro Frias n'a pas refus├® l'utilisation ou l'acc├¿s ├á toutes les ├®coutes ou enregistrements effectu├®s dans le cadre de l'enqu├¬te, mais il n'accorde aux enqu├¬teurs le droit d'utiliser le contenu des SMS envoy├®s et re├ºus par le couple McCann avant le 3 mai 2007.

Le Minist├¿re Public et la Police Judiciaire voulaient ├®galement demander aux trois operateurs de t├®l├®phonie mobile existent au Portugal – TMN, Vodafone et Optimus – les listings sous support digital (CD ou DVD) de toutes les communications concernant le couple et ses amis pour la p├®riode du 28 avril au 9 septembre 2007.

L'urgence de faire passer l'image d'un "Tapas sept" uni et solide

L'annonce par le cabinet du Procureur G├®n├®rale de la R├®publique (PGR) de l'annulation de la reconstitution demand├® par la Police Judiciaire, indiquant que cette d├®cision ├®tait la cons├®quence du refus de quatre amis des parents de Madeleine d'effectuer leur voyage de retour ├á Praia da Luz, ├á provoqu├® un ├®norme tolet obligeant Clarence Mitchell ├á r├®agir.

Si l'annulation de la diligence n'├®tait pas une v├®ritable surprise, la confirmation par le PGR de qu'il y aurait que quatre t├®moins ├á refuser de collaborer officiellement avec les autorit├®s portugaise soul├¿ve une question : pourquoi les autres trois ont' ils accept├®, sans aucune condition, de coop├®rer avec les autorit├®s portugaises ?

La question devenant g├¬nante, surtout apr├¿s que l'information soit arriv├®e dans les m├®dias britanniques, le responsable en communication du couple McCann s'est empress├® de dire que finalement "tout le groupe ne voulait pas retourner au Portugal".

Sans jamais s'attaquer ├á la note du cabinet du Procureur, le sp├®cialiste en manipulation des m├®dias s'est attach├® ├á justifier la d├®cision du couple McCann et de ses quatre amis, voulant ├á tout prix calmer l'opinion public et faire passer l'image d'un groupe solide et uni contre la police portugaise, oubliant volontairement que l'enqu├¬te ├á la disparition de Madeleine est un travail conjoint avec la police britannique.

Google Translation

Translation deleted as I have been advised it is a bad translation a Djorn is going to do a proper one.
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I hope I'm buried upside down, so the world may kiss my ar*e
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby Dinks » Thu May 29, 2008 8:20 am

So the 10th tapas member wasn't a forum myth after all.
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby Francesca 12 » Thu May 29, 2008 8:30 am

I mentioned this yesterday in the thread -

'Why the Tapas wouldn't go back'

Have always thought it strange, wonder if he/she could be the key to this mystery ?
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby keepdigging » Thu May 29, 2008 8:34 am

'If the judge's decision prevents the use of donated prior to the disappearance of Madeleine, it has not prevented investigators to take note of calls and inspectors to know who talked to whom.'

Am I right in understanding that this means they know the content of the calls/texts/numbers/callers, but don't have permission to actually make use of that information? If so, this must make the process longer drawn out and more complicated, but surely the information itself must be gold and keep the PJ on the right track?
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby bjr » Thu May 29, 2008 8:36 am

The google translation that I put up has been removed as it was not an accurate translation of the text. Djorn is going to do a proper translation or arrange for one to be done.
To my critics
When I'm in a sober mood, I worry, work and think,
When I'm in a drunken mood, I gamble, play and drink,
But when my moods are over and my time has come to pass,
I hope I'm buried upside down, so the world may kiss my ar*e
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby frencheuropean » Thu May 29, 2008 8:37 am

L'affaire rebondit spectaculairement. Merci pour cet article Monsieur Levy.

Apparently, there is a 10th "tapas" involved, may be a British one among the British people living there. May be someone who knows very well the surroundings and could have help ,after, to hide the corpse.
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby isis » Thu May 29, 2008 8:39 am

If there was a tenth tapas, John Stalker was right when he wrote the article stating that in his opinion they were hiding a big secret, how true those words may turn out to be.
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby harmony » Thu May 29, 2008 8:45 am

If the event which injured Maddie occured on the evening of the 2nd, and if there was a member of the party who made a quick exit, it seems probable they would have made that quick exit on the night of the 2nd, or early on the day of the 3rd, imo.
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby MalCat » Thu May 29, 2008 8:47 am

Any educated guesses as to the identity of the 10th man/woman? Apart from Pinkie, that is.
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby paulosgirl » Thu May 29, 2008 8:52 am

frencheuropean wrote:L'affaire rebondit spectaculairement. Merci pour cet article Monsieur Levy.

Apparently, there is a 10th "tapas" involved, may be a British one among the British people living there. May be someone who knows very well the surroundings and could have help ,after, to hide the corpse.


If this Tapas 10 is real then it changes everything.
I wish we knew. :banghead:
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby sally66 » Thu May 29, 2008 10:00 am

Can anybody translate?
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby frencheuropean » Thu May 29, 2008 10:06 am

sally66 wrote:Can anybody translate?


It's better to wait for Djorn to give his tranlation if necessary.
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Re: Investigators wanted the 10th "Tapas" by Duarte Levy

Postby sally66 » Thu May 29, 2008 10:08 am

frencheuropean wrote:
sally66 wrote:Can anybody translate?


It's better to wait for Djorn to give his tranlation if necessary.


Ok I'm just intrigued and keep coming back to the thread in anticipation :D
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