LEAFLETS thread discussion.

Madeleine Beth McCann went missing from PDL in Portugal on the 3rd May 2007, there are so many unanswered questions, please discuss

Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby Amber08 » Tue May 27, 2008 8:21 am

bjr wrote:I have just had a thought, this might sound silly and needs to be discussed properly and everybody needs to have input on this.

Why not do this from a different angle?

You are all concerned that the leaflets of What are the chances and As A Mother could have impact on the trial and the McCanns legal team might use this as a way to stop the McCanns going to trial. Fine I fully accept that. And I for one would not like to see that happen. The leaflets are excellent imo, and everyone I have shown say my god, when you look at it from this point of view they are not speaking the truth and are hiding things. But as I said the last thing we want is for them to walk free because of a technicality and the leaflet used as part of the reasons behind the technicality.

Sorry it is early and I am typing this as I am thinking, so please feel free to add and debate.

What is a leaflet was produced to promote the various forums and websites. I don't know if Redsquare or the other sites would be interested in this but it could be a way around it. It would not be seen as a witch hunt on the McCanns and it could not be used to their advantage.

It would need co-operation and input from all websites involved.

For example from the3arguidos point of view, we could list all the forums that are on the3arguidos, the Royal Family, Crimes, New and Old, The Lounge, From Around the World, etc.

And then perhaps a small bulletted list of what each forum is discussing.

And with co-operation the other websites could list what they are covering and what they want displayed.

The website could if they wish and are within their rights to have a sticky with all the relevant leaflets shown on the thread and would have no control over it if people decided to copy and paste the leaflet and send it, either by e-mail or print it off and gave it to family and friends. Just like they have no control of the people that copy and paste our posts onto other websites.

Just a thought.

Edited to add.

I have relatives that have no internet access but I have shown them the leaftlet, so it will get out to those that do not have internet access.

My partner who is a retired policeman believes they will contest anyway that they cannot have a fair trial becuase of the media attention (albeit orchestrated by themselves :evil: !) makes me mad ...I can see both sides of the coin and am all for Free Speech and feel England is looking a prize turkey for allowing the Mccanns to appear more powerful than our press/govt/PJ/public opinion etc.....
I do hope and pray the tide will turn shortly and redress the balance with or without the leaflets and youtube etc.... Bjr your idea seems sound to me :)
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby bjr » Tue May 27, 2008 8:23 am

astro wrote:Personally, I have emailed the 'What are the chances' text to several people on my contact list. I have done so because I do believe in the legitimacy of asking questions, and because coincidentally this is exactly the manner in which I have reached my own conclusions about this case - by asking what the chances were, and when I looked at the pile of 'chances' before me, I realised that every one of them added a zero right after the comma, in my probabilities count.


Exactly astro, these leaflets will get out because people will DO what you have done, and there is nothing illegal in it and the word will spread. It might take a little longer to get through the grapevine but it will.
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby Chinagirl » Tue May 27, 2008 10:33 am

No one can force someone else to do the right thing; to obey the law; to behave honourably. In a civilised, democratic society, laws are enacted and sanctions specified for breaking them, but each individual decides for him/herself whether or not to abide by them. Same with behaviour - that which is not defined by a law. There are certain norms which a civilised society expects of its citizens - adults are assumed to know the difference between right and wrong; what is acceptable or not acceptable, but "correct" behaviour cannot be forced on anybody - individuals choose to do or not do certain things.

In this particular matter, there is no law which says members here can't distribute those leaflets in public, providing certain criteria (specified by laws and by-laws are complied with), nor is there any convention or behavioural expectation to say this should not be done. Several posters have rightly pointed out that charges have not been made, so the sub judice rulings don't yet apply. Nevertheless, the two people in question are under a judicial process, even though such a condition does not exist in English law, and it is expected (certainly hoped) that charges will be laid sooner rather than later, turning them into accused rather than this rather vague and difficult to understand (for non Portuguese) arguido status.

The point being made by those of us who are not in favour of this leaflet campaign has been mainly one of the right behaviour, rather than suggesting a law was being broken. It is widely known by members here that the McCanns have milked the sympathy vote for all its worth for more than a year now; we know that they have blamed adverse media coverage (minimal though that has been) for unfairly victimising them; we know they have it in for forums such as this; we know they have a well-oiled PR machine and have access to very good, very expensive legal advice; we know they have already been successful in a defamation action. We also know that as about-to-be defendants in a criminal proceeding, they are entitled to mount a defence. It doesn't take a Mensa-rated intelligence to work out that a leaflet campaign such as the one which was proposed here would simply add grist to their "smear" mill, and thus ran the risk of being completely counterproductive.

This is what Tigger's legal advisors have warned her of, and what several posters here have been saying as well - a public campaign of the nature proposed, endorsed (yes, BJR & Nbrado, disclaimers notwithstanding) endorsed by this forum cou;d well be seen as "incitement to hatred" and give ammunition for cries of unfairness in any trial - WHEREVER SUCH TRIAL EVENTUALLY TAKES PLACE. Nevertheless, nothing can stop individuals from doing what they want with those leaflets - passing them by email or whatever means to other people, and for those people, in turn, to pass them on. One can only hope that commonsense - and common decency and sense of the "rightness" of things will cause such people to consider what they are doing.

Free speech is a wonderful catch-phrase, one which was proposed and endorsed in England long before the American constitution so enshrined it, but it comes at a price and with responsibility - that being commonsense and the "rightness" of things.
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby retribution » Tue May 27, 2008 10:38 am

Chinagirl wrote:No one can force someone else to do the right thing; to obey the law; to behave honourably. In a civilised, democratic society, laws are enacted and sanctions specified for breaking them, but each individual decides for him/herself whether or not to abide by them. Same with behaviour - that which is not defined by a law. There are certain norms which a civilised society expects of its citizens - adults are assumed to know the difference between right and wrong; what is acceptable or not acceptable, but "correct" behaviour cannot be forced on anybody - individuals choose to do or not do certain things.

In this particular matter, there is no law which says members here can't distribute those leaflets in public, providing certain criteria (specified by laws and by-laws are complied with), nor is there any convention or behavioural expectation to say this should not be done. Several posters have rightly pointed out that charges have not been made, so the sub judice rulings don't yet apply. Nevertheless, the two people in question are under a judicial process, even though such a condition does not exist in English law, and it is expected (certainly hoped) that charges will be laid sooner rather than later, turning them into accused rather than this rather vague and difficult to understand (for non Portuguese) arguido status.

The point being made by those of us who are not in favour of this leaflet campaign has been mainly one of the right behaviour, rather than suggesting a law was being broken. It is widely known by members here that the McCanns have milked the sympathy vote for all its worth for more than a year now; we know that they have blamed adverse media coverage (minimal though that has been) for unfairly victimising them; we know they have it in for forums such as this; we know they have a well-oiled PR machine and have access to very good, very expensive legal advice; we know they have already been successful in a deformation action. We also know that as about-to-be defendants in a criminal proceeding, they are entitled to mount a defence. It doesn't take a Mensa-rated intelligence to work out that a leaflet campaign such as the one which was proposed here would simply add grist to their "smear" mill, and thus ran the risk of being completely counterproductive.

This is what Tigger's legal advisors have warned her of, and what several posters here have been saying as well - a public campaign of the nature proposed, endorsed (yes, BJR & Nbrado, disclaimers notwithstanding) endorsed by this forum cou;d well be seen as "incitement to hatred" and give ammunition for cries of unfairness in any trial - WHEREVER SUCH TRIAL EVENTUALLY TAKES PLACE. Nevertheless, nothing can stop individuals from doing what they want with those leaflets - passing them by email or whatever means to other people, and for those people, in turn, to pass them on. One can only hope that commonsense - and common decency and sense of the "rightness" of things will cause such people to consider what they are doing.

Free speech is a wonderful catch-phrase, one which was proposed and endorsed in England long before the American constitution so enshrined it, but it comes at a price and with responsibility - that being commonsense and the "rightness" of things.



I second that - very well put, CG
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby MISTY » Tue May 27, 2008 10:48 am

we know they have a well-oiled PR machine and have access to very good, very expensive legal advice; we know they have already been successful in a deformation action.

What, please, is a "deformation action"?
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby pear » Tue May 27, 2008 10:48 am

For all its worth (that means, nothing, why should anyone care about my praise?) I would like to praise Redsquare and Astro and yes, Chinagirl's too, posts. As a Portuguese, Luz and Astro's position do strike a chord. It is obvious to me that freedom, and the defense of freedom of speech, comes at a price: of responsibility, as Chinagirl says, but also at a price that sometime has to be paid in "blood" (physical, or moral). We, Portuguese, still remember it well. But Redsquare stated very, very clear what the game is: two people are fighting for their lives, with all their ammunition. Those of us that think that if due process takes place, as we wish and hope, they will be found responsible of actions that our societies condemn must make sure that we do not help them evade same due process.

Incidentally, I still haven't read the leaflets. My only participation in this thread, and in other inane ones, has to do with the way this discussion was conducted or not, just like Redsquare, again, stated very clearly.
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby Chinagirl » Tue May 27, 2008 11:17 am

MISTY wrote:we know they have a well-oiled PR machine and have access to very good, very expensive legal advice; we know they have already been successful in a deformation action.

What, please, is a "deformation action"?


I'm sure you have enough intelligence to work out that typo, Misty.
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby beggars'belief » Tue May 27, 2008 11:24 am

MISTY wrote:we know they have a well-oiled PR machine and have access to very good, very expensive legal advice; we know they have already been successful in a deformation action.

What, please, is a "deformation action"?


This is just a wild guess, on my part, but the word "deformation" (if said ever so quickly) sounds almost the same as 'defamation'. So, perhaps you could read the phrase as ' ...defamation action ...' which is a real concept in Law.

'Deformation action' (sic) works in itself though. There have been instances IMO where the truth, or otherwise reasonable accounts of facts have been 'deformed' by the action of various professionals for public consumption in this affair.

You can take your pick !

Excellent post Chinagirl, IMO.

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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby Tigger » Tue May 27, 2008 11:54 am

Chinagirl wrote:No one can force someone else to do the right thing; to obey the law; to behave honourably. In a civilised, democratic society, laws are enacted and sanctions specified for breaking them, but each individual decides for him/herself whether or not to abide by them. Same with behaviour - that which is not defined by a law. There are certain norms which a civilised society expects of its citizens - adults are assumed to know the difference between right and wrong; what is acceptable or not acceptable, but "correct" behaviour cannot be forced on anybody - individuals choose to do or not do certain things.

In this particular matter, there is no law which says members here can't distribute those leaflets in public, providing certain criteria (specified by laws and by-laws are complied with), nor is there any convention or behavioural expectation to say this should not be done. Several posters have rightly pointed out that charges have not been made, so the sub judice rulings don't yet apply. Nevertheless, the two people in question are under a judicial process, even though such a condition does not exist in English law, and it is expected (certainly hoped) that charges will be laid sooner rather than later, turning them into accused rather than this rather vague and difficult to understand (for non Portuguese) arguido status.

The point being made by those of us who are not in favour of this leaflet campaign has been mainly one of the right behaviour, rather than suggesting a law was being broken. It is widely known by members here that the McCanns have milked the sympathy vote for all its worth for more than a year now; we know that they have blamed adverse media coverage (minimal though that has been) for unfairly victimising them; we know they have it in for forums such as this; we know they have a well-oiled PR machine and have access to very good, very expensive legal advice; we know they have already been successful in a defamation action. We also know that as about-to-be defendants in a criminal proceeding, they are entitled to mount a defence. It doesn't take a Mensa-rated intelligence to work out that a leaflet campaign such as the one which was proposed here would simply add grist to their "smear" mill, and thus ran the risk of being completely counterproductive.

This is what Tigger's legal advisors have warned her of, and what several posters here have been saying as well - a public campaign of the nature proposed, endorsed (yes, BJR & Nbrado, disclaimers notwithstanding) endorsed by this forum cou;d well be seen as "incitement to hatred" and give ammunition for cries of unfairness in any trial - WHEREVER SUCH TRIAL EVENTUALLY TAKES PLACE. Nevertheless, nothing can stop individuals from doing what they want with those leaflets - passing them by email or whatever means to other people, and for those people, in turn, to pass them on. One can only hope that commonsense - and common decency and sense of the "rightness" of things will cause such people to consider what they are doing.

Free speech is a wonderful catch-phrase, one which was proposed and endorsed in England long before the American constitution so enshrined it, but it comes at a price and with responsibility - that being commonsense and the "rightness" of things.


Good afternoon everyone, sorry half term so kids all over the place. I was I confess a bit anxious about popping my head up today but was very reassured to see your kindness in your posts.

You retribution started me thinking, I admired the way you posted and articulated your concerns so well. I had not thought of that angle and was very grateful you hilighted it thank you. China Girl your post is excellent thank you, very very well written.

You are right all of you, it was very hard writing that post. Even though other posters had mentioned the implications some have more abrasive ways of posting, often it is not WHAT you say it is the way you say it! So thank you retribution very much for making me see something that otherwise I may have missed.

However I think that the one major thing that this has shown me is the cohesion and the comraderie on this forum. Threads are put up as an item for discussion, digestion and cogitation. I feel that this thread has shown just that. A bunch of strangers coming together, many of us from different cultures and upbringings have shown that actually Team McCann we are WATCHING you and we are waiting in the wings.

I hope that noone is upset with me for taking this stance. I merely feel that ANYTHING ORGANISED or orchestated is going to play right into their sticky sweaty little hands. The thought of the lawyers smiling cheshire cat smiles all over their faces feels me with dread. To think that those that want to know the truth may be deprived of it because of a well intentioned move that goes horribly wrong is unbearable.

But nevertheless the leaflets are done and in time I am sure we will be able to scatter them like rose petals all over the world and I certainly intend to..............WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO and the McCanns cannot bite us in the bums!

My many many thanks for everyones kind comments. I was very worried and anxious when I posted. Redsquare.............your post also was superb and I thank you.

The McCANNS by very nature of the thread now know what the public are capable of and in a very short time........................so let's wait and jump when it is safe to do so and we all can see that Madeleine McCann gets the justice she so rightly deserves.

My thanks again to retribution in particular. :wink: who made so much sense in a very mature and reasoned way.

jjp you are a star and the work you have put in is admirable as with all the other posters such as Adonia and Sad Git, too many to mention. I know the hard work will pay off, but maybe not just yet............................ :(

Edited to add........

My respect for this forum and the admin team has grown enormously and I would like to thank the team for allowing this thread to even stay and be discussed. I think the very nature of the thread on its own has ruffled a few feathers in the right quarters!! Thank you. Just shows you what sharing information and ideas can do. :wink:

re edited to add..........I have taken the liberty of ammending the thread title too, just in case the McCann lawyers need clarification that this is a DISCUSSION! :wink: ( can't be too careful!)
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Re: LEAFLETS thread discussion.

Postby jjp » Tue May 27, 2008 2:11 pm

What are the Chances - Complete set of links to date

What are the Chances

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What are the Chances bulleted

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What are the Chances leaflet - one sided and black and white.

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What are the Chances Trifold Version

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PDF EASY PRINT VERSION - http://tigger.freeweb7.com/trifold2a.pdf




What are the Chances German Version

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What are the Chances - Portuguese Version

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What are the Chances - Spanish Version

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What are the Chances - French Version

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YOUTUBE VIDEOS

Leaflet videos

English - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_i_Zuh-c1Q
French - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xZa0_yUiQ

Other videos

Carlymichelle's video - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo

Miss Take's video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORHsvkYKpA

Miss Take's Tapas 7 video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdlTo4_YcPw
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Re: LEAFLETS thread discussion.

Postby jjp » Tue May 27, 2008 2:12 pm

As a Mother Leaflet Links - COMPLETE SET TO DATE

As a Mother

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As a Mother (B/W - one-sided)

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As a Mother (Trifold version)

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As A Mother (German Version)

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As A Mother (French Version)

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As A Mother (Portuguese Version)

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As A Mother (Spanish Version)

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YOUTUBE VIDEOS

Leaflet videos

English - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_i_Zuh-c1Q
French - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xZa0_yUiQ
Portuguese - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ43hF5DP8k

Other videos

Carlymichelle's video - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo

Miss Take's video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORHsvkYKpA

Miss Take's Tapas 7 video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdlTo4_YcPw
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Re: LEAFLETS thread discussion.

Postby cassen » Tue May 27, 2008 2:28 pm

I know this is OT but having been identified as the author of the spanish translation of both leaflets, I want to make it clear that I am not at all responsible for the new version of the 'Mother' leaflet which is full of anglicisms and grammar mistakes. I have a well-earned professionnal respect to protect. :x This second leaflet is detrimental to this forum's credibility.
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby MISTY » Tue May 27, 2008 2:29 pm

we know they have a well-oiled PR machine and have access to very good, very expensive legal advice; we know they have already been successful in a deformation action.

What, please, is a "deformation action"?

I'm sure you have enough intelligence to work out that typo, Misty.

Thank you, Bbelief for your response to my question.
I see "defamation" was your correct (intelligent) guess!
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Re: LEAFLETS completed set links Page 66 in 5 languages+YouTube

Postby potsy » Tue May 27, 2008 2:45 pm

Arguida wrote:
potsy wrote:nicked,

You are really trying to scare the wrong person. And your argument is fallacious. The trial WILL be held in Portugal. It is their jurisdiction. Please, please, please, give it a rest and go try to scare someone else...


Why do you as an American, unfamiliar with English and Portugese Law, feel you have the right to interfere with a fair trial in another country. I don't think your papers are muzzled and I think you enjoy free speech. I have seen it written that the trial could be in the UK. I don't know the law but I would not feel I had the right to interfere in another country's criminal trial.


Ya know I received a nasty pm on Monday saying as an American, I should shut up!! Your language here sounds familiar...did you have a hand in sending it?

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Re: LEAFLETS thread discussion.

Postby jjp » Tue May 27, 2008 2:48 pm

cassen wrote:I know this is OT but having been identified as the author of the spanish translation of both leaflets, I want to make it clear that I am not at all responsible for the new version of the 'Mother' leaflet which is full of anglicisms and grammar mistakes. I have a well-earned professionnal respect to protect. :x This second leaflet is detrimental to this forum's credibility.


Not off topic - this thread is to discuss all aspects of leafleting and the content of leaflets.

I have removed it and will ask the author to comment.
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