First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Madeleine Beth McCann went missing from PDL in Portugal on the 3rd May 2007, there are so many unanswered questions, please discuss

First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby gestalt » Fri May 16, 2008 10:29 pm

http://www.truthformadeleine.com/images/Pool-Hi-Res.jpg
Thanks to Stevo for hosting

Early this morning a member by the name of theKPTHorg said he had a high resolution copy of "The Last Photo" which intrigued me as, like myself, many "professionals" have been wanting this for a while.
http://3as.madeleinemccann.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12091&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=255

I hadn't heard of this member I_Should_Coco posted http://3as.madeleinemccann.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12920 and Drachen has picked them up on his radar.

Turns out he did have the image, or screen shots anyway...
http://3as.madeleinemccann.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12091&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=262

It took a while to get the whole image, and it came via a direct download (but I suggest you don't)
http://3as.madeleinemccann.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12989&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=60

but we got it. Thing is, it took so long to drag out of him, and we're a suspicious lot here at the 3A's - I have taken the liberty of uploading it to a Windows live site and I very much suggest members load it from there. After all we don't want anybody breaking into their site and putting something nasty in that folder for us to upload now would we??


Now I don't really want yet another Last Photo thread here but let's think how as this site got hold of a first generation copy of this, and why are they posting it here so mysteriously.

They run a Joomla site, even for a novice user it would take three mouse click to put that on their site. Why didn't they?

Edit: Image URL
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby twiglet1963 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:07 pm

That looks genuine to me. I can't even see any of the flaws that have been discussed. No indication that Madeleine was photoshopped into it.
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby pensive1 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:10 pm

Thanks for the post,

Have you looked at the Hex code for that image?

Canon Powershot A620, Edited\Opened by Adobe Photoshop Windows 24/05/2007 17:41:22

Originally taken AFAIK 03/05/2007 13:29:51.

I don't know enough about .jpg files to find if tampered with but that would not be easy for time stamps unless deliberately heading out to pervert justice (Lile old Callum would struggle IMO).
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby pensive1 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:12 pm

twiglet1963 wrote:I don't know enough about .jpg files to find if tampered with
I don't mean tampering with image but the actual stored binary file BTW
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby just listening » Fri May 16, 2008 11:26 pm

pensive1 wrote:
twiglet1963 wrote:I don't know enough about .jpg files to find if tampered with
I don't mean tampering with image but the actual stored binary file BTW


Hi we discussed this on the main thread and I posted a link which shows a court case where this was actually done, and basically states that it is fairly easy to do.

Here it is again make of it as you will, the link takes you to the full article which details where the courts stand on this. Hope it helps.

http://www.slate.com/id/2140303/

Photoshop and many other software packages let you edit certain parts of the EXIF data. You can add a caption, for example, or copyright information if you're a professional photographer. Other metadata'like the original time stamp, for example'is "read-only," which means you can't modify it with standard software. Even if you try to fiddle with the binary code using a hex editor, it may not be obvious how to change the date and time without corrupting the file.
That doesn't mean it takes a serious computer hacker to adjust the numbers. Within a span of about 20 minutes, the Explainer was able to download a utility called ExifTool from the Web and edit the time stamps on all his photos: Each and every one now appears to have been taken at 12:30 a.m. on the night of the Duke lacrosse team party.
If a lawyer wants to use time-stamp metadata in court, he'll be much better off if the police seized the digital camera that took the pictures. That way he can argue that the pictures on the camera couldn't have been modified, and he can also demonstrate that the clock inside the camera wasn't improperly set. He can also try to corroborate the time stamps with the images themselves: One of the photos in the Duke case purportedly shows a player's wristwatch with the time matching that given in the metadata.
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby just listening » Fri May 16, 2008 11:29 pm

twiglet1963 wrote:That looks genuine to me. I can't even see any of the flaws that have been discussed. No indication that Madeleine was photoshopped into it.


Agree with you there I think the photo is original, just the date thing I am not convinced of.
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby Tutti » Fri May 16, 2008 11:29 pm

slightly off topic i know but why dont those kids have any sunblock on?
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby cynical_tourist » Fri May 16, 2008 11:30 pm

Thanks Gestalt :D

Interesting as this picture appears to be complete
The EXif information is all there
Canon PowerShot A620
2007-05-03T13:29:51+01:00

and (interestingly) the source is now identified as the picture has an IPTC caption added

CORRECTING SOURCE IN IPCT:
Picture released by the McCann family 24 May 2007 and was taken 03 May 2007, the same day Madeleine McCann (R) went missing from the family's holiday apartment in the southern Algarve region. The photo also shows Madeleine's father Gerry and sister Amelie. Madeleine was abducted as she slept with her brother and sister in a hotel apartment at the Ocean Club Resort while her parents dined at a nearby restaurant. AFP PHOTO/HO
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby BakedBean » Fri May 16, 2008 11:37 pm

EXIF is intact, but may have been edited. No real way of telling.
Does appear to be a full resolution 'off camera' image.

Looks like an original image to me. I work with digital images professionally and a good portion of what I do is retouching and manipulation. Can't find anything wrong with it. The only thing that does stick out is the area right underneath Gerry's shorts, at the tip of his thumb. The edge of the pool is very bright behind his hand and between his shorts. One would think there would be more shadow there? Looks a bit 'floaty' if you know what I mean?
Could just be one of those things. It is the only thing that stands out for me (albeit ever so slightly)...

Image was resaved on the 24th of May for despatch to the press, so EXIF data may have been tampered with... Certainly enough time prior to release...
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby K4REN171 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:39 pm

I have posted on the other thread. I ran it through my Corel programme. The EXIF is all there, and programme used was Adobe Photoshop. Whether this means it was altered in any way is another matter, but my Corel read the software used as Adobe.
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby just listening » Fri May 16, 2008 11:41 pm

BakedBean wrote:EXIF is intact, but may have been edited. No real way of telling.
Does appear to be a full resolution 'off camera' image.

Looks like an original image to me. I work with digital images professionally and a good portion of what I do is retouching and manipulation. Can't find anything wrong with it. The only thing that does stick out is the area right underneath Gerry's shorts, at the tip of his thumb. The edge of the pool is very bright behind his hand and between his shorts. One would think there would be more shadow there? Looks a bit 'floaty' if you know what I mean?
Could just be one of those things. It is the only thing that stands out for me (albeit ever so slightly)...

Image was resaved on the 24th of May for despatch to the press, so EXIF data could very well have been tampered with...


Agree with you, I work with photoshop a lot and don't think the photo has been tampered with but as above, EXIF data can be, pretty easily. Anyway I guess the point is that the photo on it's own would not be considered evidence in this case because it cannot be proven that it has not been tampered with there would have to be other evidence to show that she was around on the 3rd.
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby gestalt » Fri May 16, 2008 11:42 pm

The photoshop Exif pass is explained by the IPCT mentioned by CyT above. I would imagine an organisation like AP would have a procedure which drops in identifying text as the image enters the system, they must get quite a few!
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby just listening » Fri May 16, 2008 11:44 pm

BakedBean wrote:
Image was resaved on the 24th of May for despatch to the press, so EXIF data may have been tampered with... Certainly enough time prior to release...


Yes and Clarence was around then he would certainly know about the importance of the EXIF data and probably how to change it I'm guessing especially in his line of work. Night all
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby pensive1 » Fri May 16, 2008 11:49 pm

just listening wrote:
pensive1 wrote:
twiglet1963 wrote:I don't know enough about .jpg files to find if tampered with
I don't mean tampering with image but the actual stored binary file BTW


Hi we discussed this on the main thread and I posted a link which shows a court case where this was actually done, and basically states that it is fairly easy to do.

Here it is again make of it as you will, the link takes you to the full article which details where the courts stand on this. Hope it helps.

http://www.slate.com/id/2140303/

Photoshop and many other software packages let you edit certain parts of the EXIF data. You can add a caption, for example, or copyright information if you're a professional photographer. Other metadata'like the original time stamp, for example'is "read-only," which means you can't modify it with standard software. Even if you try to fiddle with the binary code using a hex editor, it may not be obvious how to change the date and time without corrupting the file.
That doesn't mean it takes a serious computer hacker to adjust the numbers. Within a span of about 20 minutes, the Explainer was able to download a utility called ExifTool from the Web and edit the time stamps on all his photos: Each and every one now appears to have been taken at 12:30 a.m. on the night of the Duke lacrosse team party.
If a lawyer wants to use time-stamp metadata in court, he'll be much better off if the police seized the digital camera that took the pictures. That way he can argue that the pictures on the camera couldn't have been modified, and he can also demonstrate that the clock inside the camera wasn't improperly set. He can also try to corroborate the time stamps with the images themselves: One of the photos in the Duke case purportedly shows a player's wristwatch with the time matching that given in the metadata.


Some mix up with quotes there I think.

Standard Hex editor available through GPL'd sofwtare will show:

rows of hex numbers on left and with text on right hand side. For me to convert that picture to taken in 2008 I just select the digit 7 on text side and on the hex side and change code from 37 to 38 and bingo. Not difficult but seriously difficult to keep that source under control unless pre-meditated which I don't think was. Likewise can easily change date time stamp or even mark as deleted. Or even undelete a file that has been emptied from a trash can but . . . . fragmentation causes hassles :(
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Re: First Generation Hi Res copy of LAST PHOTO

Postby BakedBean » Fri May 16, 2008 11:51 pm

Full EXIF for those that are unable to view it themselves (age of course relates to when I just generated this data with an EXIF viewer)...

XMP
Create Date 2007:05:24 17:41:20+01:00
11 months, 23 days, 7 hours, 3 minutes, 4 seconds ago
Creator Tool Adobe Photoshop CS Windows
Date/Time Digitized 2007:05:03 13:29:51+01:00
1 year, 13 days, 11 hours, 14 minutes, 33 seconds ago
Date/Time Original 2007:05:03 13:29:51+01:00
1 year, 13 days, 11 hours, 14 minutes, 33 seconds ago
Derived From Document ID adobe:docid:photoshop:f6b0285f-0a0a-11dc-b952-be0bcc6c30e7
Derived From Instance ID uuid:63e9333c-0a0c-11dc-b952-be0bcc6c30e7
Document ID adobe:docid:photoshop:367c54b5-0a0d-11dc-b952-be0bcc6c30e7
Flash Fired False
Flash Function False
Flash Mode Auto
Flash Red Eye Mode True
Flash Return No return detection
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Focal Plane Y Resolution 10816.9014084507
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11 months, 23 days, 7 hours, 3 minutes, 2 seconds ago
Modify Date 2007:05:24 17:41:22+01:00
11 months, 23 days, 7 hours, 3 minutes, 2 seconds ago

EXIF ' this group of metadata is encoded in 9,316 bytes (9.1k)
Aperture Value 4.0
Color Space sRGB
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1 year, 13 days, 3 hours, 14 minutes, 33 seconds ago
Custom Rendered Normal
Date/Time Original 2007:05:03 13:29:51
1 year, 13 days, 3 hours, 14 minutes, 33 seconds ago
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Exposure Compensation 0
Exposure Mode Auto
Exposure Time 1/1000
F Number 4.0
File Source Digital Camera
Flash Auto, Did not fire, Red-eye reduction
Flashpix Version 0100
Focal Length 21.7 mm
Focal Plane Resolution 10,816.90141 pixels/inch
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Interoperability Version 0100
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Metering Mode Multi-segment
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User Comment
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Y Cb Cr Positioning Centered
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APP14
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IPTC
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Credit AFP
Date Created 2007:05:24
11 months, 23 days, 16 hours, 44 minutes, 24 seconds ago
Headline -
IPTC Application Record 243 Par1325555
Language Identifier EN
Object Name CORRECTION-PORTUGAL-BRITAIN-CRIME
Original Transmission Reference POR01
Source FAMILY HANDOUT
Special Instructions CORRECTING SOURCE IN IPCT
Supplemental Categories Crime
Time Created 15:21:29+00:00
Writer-Editor lfb

JFIF
JFIF Version 1.2
Resolution 180 pixels/inch

File ' basic information derived from the file.
Bits Per Sample 8
Color Components 3
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File Type JPEG
Image Size 3,072 × 2,304
MIME Type image/jpeg
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)

Composite
This block of data is computed based upon other items. Some of it may be wildly incorrect if the image has been resized.
Aperture 4.0
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Date/Time Created 2007:05:24 15:21:29+00:00
11 months, 23 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes, 55 seconds ago
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