Prejudice against portuguese police

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Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby 198abv » Sat May 10, 2008 6:40 pm

The prejudice against the portuguese has been widespread in the portuguese media.
At least this is what many portuguese claim.
It is not easy , tought , to document actual inacurracies.
Here is one.


Sun a few days ago did publish an account of the maddie story.
Describing the first few hours after abduction they claim :
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... gination=1





"In Britain and America, such an abduction would have triggered an almost instant police dragnet ' sniffer dogs and helicopters would have scoured the area while the child's picture would have been handed to the Press and TV to make public as fast as possible.


None of this happened.".
End of quote


Really , I ask

Here is what guardian did report , 3 days after abduction.


"

Grandfather: evidence that three-year-old was snatched


* Sandra Laville and Dale Fuchs in Faro
This article appeared in the Guardian on Saturday May 05 2007 on p1 of the Top stories section. It was last updated at 00:19 on May 05 2007.


The grandfather of a three-year-old snatched from her parents' holiday apartment in the Algarve said yesterday that there was clear evidence she had been abducted.

Police helicopters flew over Praia de la Luz yesterday as the hunt intensified for Madeleine McCann, who went missing from her bedroom in the apartment on Thursday night. "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/0 ... pstories31


As everyone can see in the day after the dissapearance of madeleine, portuguese police
used helicopters to search for madeleine.

But one year later the sun claims otherwise.

The helicopters dissapeared in the sun reporting and actually the portuguese were criticised for not having used them.


Who is being smeared in the media ?

The Mc Cans..,or the portuguese police ?

Neither the Sun does report the effords of the portuguese in the very night madeleine dissapeared.
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby 198abv » Sat May 10, 2008 6:44 pm

The problem is that portuguese police dared to point the finger of a powerfull couple that had managed to make a web of connections in the British establishement.
The portuguese were not prepared for the battle and they got crushed , smeared in the britt media.
Because they dared to acuse the Couple.
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby 198abv » Sat May 10, 2008 10:02 pm

This is the helicopter that ( for the sun ) never existed.

The picture was taken in praia da luz , May 4 , 2007.
http://www.exposay.com/police-helicopte ... /10561/10/

You can watch the picture where I found it.

Its in exposay website.

It does happen such picture and the event it does depict does not fit in the narrative of the incopetent , lazy portuguese police , the Mc Cans crushed under portuguese boot.

So the event disapeared and one year later the Sun was reporting

No helicopters searched for maddie in portugal ,as it would have happenned in the UK or US the Sun would report one year later.

If such events were not tragic and sad ( because they show the xenophobia of the british press ) they would have been laughable.
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby Laffin Assasin » Sat May 10, 2008 10:09 pm

The Sun is 110% supporting the McCanns, said Kelvin McKensie, former editor and columist.
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby JillyComeLately » Sun May 11, 2008 2:58 am

Laffin Assasin wrote:The Sun is 110% supporting the McCanns, said Kelvin McKensie, former editor and columist.


The fool is only doing what his puppet-master insists.
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby somthinfishie » Sun May 11, 2008 3:21 am

198abv wrote:This is the helicopter that ( for the sun ) never existed.

The picture was taken in praia da luz , May 4 , 2007.
http://www.exposay.com/police-helicopte ... /10561/10/

You can watch the picture where I found it.

Its in exposay website.

It does happen such picture and the event it does depict does not fit in the narrative of the incopetent , lazy portuguese police , the Mc Cans crushed under portuguese boot.

So the event disapeared and one year later the Sun was reporting







No helicopters searched for maddie in portugal ,as it would have happenned in the UK or US the Sun would report one year later.

If such events were not tragic and sad ( because they show the xenophobia of the british press ) they would have been laughable.



Most of us on the forum DO know the extent the PJ and GNR went to,we don`t all take what our media tell us as truth,yes,there were reports of searches,helicopters,locals and holiday makers,all out looking for Madeleine,all except,mmm lets think Image oh yeah,Gerry and Kate,to xxxxxxxx busy searching the sodding internet.Image ~~fishie
we have to speculate about the situation Madeleine finds herself (in).

Gerry McCanns blog day 184.


http://www.mccannfiles.com
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby CaboFrio » Fri May 23, 2008 8:17 am

Well, I think if I had made as many mistakes as the Portuguese Police I would be willing to accept the prejudices. :shock:
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby 198abv » Thu May 29, 2008 3:53 am

CaboFrio wrote:Well, I think if I had made as many mistakes as the Portuguese Police I would be willing to accept the prejudices. :shock:


The problem is that portuguese police was acused of making mistakes it did not , namely the lack of helicopters in the search for maddie May 4.

Portuguese police was also wrongly acused of making the Mc Cans scapegoats.

Such criticism is not justified . It is not legitimate criticism . It is prejudice.
One thing is legitimate criticism.
Another, much diferente , is unjustified criticism.
The latter reveals prejudice , an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge.
( definition of prejudice in the webster dictionary ).
Criticism is justified.
Prejudice is not.
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby kizzy » Thu May 29, 2008 4:12 am

It isn't only helicopters which have 'disappeared' - the UK press have suggested that there were other mistakes e.g. no notification of borders and dogs brought in far too late.

Not true....

1. Police DID notify border control and airports
2. Sniffer dogs (Portuguese) were brought in immediately
3. There was no sign that anyone had forced their way into the apartment (shutters/windows)


24Dash, Friday 4th May 2007 - 12:18pm ( only 14 hours after Madeleine disappeared)

John Hill said: "It was a very emotional and very frantic night and everyone did a fantastic job of getting involved and trying to search the area.

"As you can imagine, Madeleine's parents are distraught and not doing very well at all."

Around 60 staff and guests at the purpose-built complex searched until 4.30am while police notified border police, Spanish police and airports.

Sniffer dogs were brought in by Portuguese detectives
to comb the area but as the hours went by, hopes that Madeleine merely wandered off were fading.

A spokesman for the Policia Judiciaria - the Portuguese CID - said they would not comment on the investigation.

British consul in Portugal Bill Henderson was with the couple and their twins, a boy and a girl, and Mark Warner said it was flying out counsellors to help them through the ordeal.

Mr Hill said that despite the report by a family friend that the shutters to the couple's apartment were broken, there was no sign that anyone had forced their way in while the McCanns ate at the tapas restaurant 200 yards away.

He said: "We are hoping that Madeleine is found as soon as possible and safe and well. Everybody here is just wishing that she is found as soon as possible."

But family friend Jill Renwick told GMTV the McCanns were certain that Madeleine has been abducted.

"They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour and the shutters had been broken open and they had gone into the room and taken Madeleine," she said.

"They went out about eight, went back in at nine, they were fine, went back in at 10 and she was gone."

She described the missing girl as a "very pretty, very blonde three-year-old".

Ms Renwick said of the holiday: "This is the first time they have done this. They are very, very anxious parents and very careful and they chose Mark Warner because it is a family-friendly resort."

A Mark Warner spokesman said looking after the McCanns was their "first priority", along with finding their daughter, and added that if necessary it would fly other family members out to the Ocean Club, which it has run for two years.

He said: "Our staff are looking after them at the moment in whatever way they can but we can only imagine how awful it is for them.

"We are all hoping that she is asleep under a bush somewhere and we will find her soon."


http://www.24dash.com/news/Communities/ ... e-year-old
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby Impartial » Thu May 29, 2008 5:26 am

The reporting on the court ruling regarding the text messages was a clever way of insuring that the world knows the independence of the portuguese Judicial system.

It will be much harder to argue that they want to set the McCanns up after this report.
All my posts are based on the fact that Kate and Gerry were made arguidos - on suspicion of concealment of the corpse and simulation of the crime of abduction (JdN)
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby xklamation » Thu May 29, 2008 5:39 am

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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby lizzy » Thu May 29, 2008 6:09 am

the Mccanns showed thier guilt from the start, they were criticising the efforts of the Portuguese Police from day one, this was because they knew they were guilty and they pre empted the Police finding out, by trying to convince the public via the media they were inefficient, sure signs of guilt, what criminal hasn't criticised the Police, with the same phrase as Gerry "they are trying to fit us up", classical criminal defense.
Thing is the PJ are proving they are highly efficient and will not be swayed by Team Mccann they are going for justice for Maddie, hope they get it and the guilty face charges.
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby 198abv » Thu May 29, 2008 1:52 pm

the Mccanns showed thier guilt from the start, they were criticising the efforts of the Portuguese Police from day one, this was because they knew they were guilty and they pre empted the Police finding out, by trying to convince the public via the media they were inefficient, sure signs of guilt, what criminal hasn't criticised the Police, with the same phrase as Gerry "they are trying to fit us up", classical criminal defense.


I agree
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby jdomino » Thu May 29, 2008 1:56 pm

The xenophobic fervour in criticising the Portuguese has angered me even more than the case itself.The pathetic smug supercilious tone of Parsons, Heffer and co. expressing their cod superiority whilst bathing in sentimental tones about the 'poor McCanns' has really got my goat up.

In my view they have really shot themselves in the foot there and only suceeded in fueling more anger against the MC's. What a mistake! People here still hate them for it. :evil:
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Re: Prejudice against portuguese police

Postby fedrules » Thu May 29, 2008 2:00 pm

The problem is a large section of the British public is very insular and believe that only British police and institutions are worth anything.Papers like the Sun play to this prejudice.The media made the mistake of accepting the McCanns' abduction story unquestioningly as,sadly,did many when they learnt the McCanns were God-fearing doctors..
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